{"html_url": "https://github.com/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524#issuecomment-1420496447", "issue_url": "https://api.github.com/repos/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524", "id": 1420496447, "node_id": "IC_kwDOCGYnMM5Uqw4_", "user": {"value": 21095447, "label": "4l1fe"}, "created_at": "2023-02-07T09:57:38Z", "updated_at": "2023-02-07T09:57:38Z", "author_association": "NONE", "body": "> That said, it looks like the check is only enforced at the CLI level. If you use the API directly, I think it'll work.\r\n\r\nIt works, but a column becomes `TEXT`\r\n\r\n```python\r\nIn [1]: import sqlite_utils\r\nIn [2]: db = sqlite_utils.Database('events.sqlite')\r\nIn [3]: table = db['cards.chunk.get']\r\nIn [4]: table.columns_dict\r\nOut[4]:\r\n{'id': int,\r\n 'timestamp': float,\r\n 'data_chunk_number': int,\r\n 'user_id': str,\r\n 'meta_duplication_source_id': int,\r\n 'context_sort_attribute': str,\r\n 'context_sort_order': str}\r\n\r\nIn [5]: from datetime import datetime\r\nIn [7]: table.transform(types={'timestamp': datetime})\r\nIn [8]: table.columns_dict\r\nOut[8]:\r\n{'id': int,\r\n 'timestamp': str,\r\n 'data_chunk_number': int,\r\n 'user_id': str,\r\n 'meta_duplication_source_id': int,\r\n 'context_sort_attribute': str,\r\n 'context_sort_order': str}\r\n```\r\n\r\n```bash\r\n\u276f sqlite-utils schema events.sqlite cards.chunk.get\r\nCREATE TABLE \"cards.chunk.get\" (\r\n [id] INTEGER PRIMARY KEY NOT NULL,\r\n [timestamp] TEXT,\r\n ...\r\n```\r\n", "reactions": "{\"total_count\": 0, \"+1\": 0, \"-1\": 0, \"laugh\": 0, \"hooray\": 0, \"confused\": 0, \"heart\": 0, \"rocket\": 0, \"eyes\": 0}", "issue": {"value": 1572766460, "label": "Transformation type `--type DATETIME`"}, "performed_via_github_app": null} {"html_url": "https://github.com/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524#issuecomment-1420809773", "issue_url": "https://api.github.com/repos/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524", "id": 1420809773, "node_id": "IC_kwDOCGYnMM5Ur9Yt", "user": {"value": 193185, "label": "cldellow"}, "created_at": "2023-02-07T13:53:01Z", "updated_at": "2023-02-07T13:53:01Z", "author_association": "NONE", "body": "Ah, it looks like that is controlled by this dict: https://github.com/simonw/sqlite-utils/blob/main/sqlite_utils/db.py#L178\r\n\r\nI suspect you could overwrite the datetime entry to achieve what you want", "reactions": "{\"total_count\": 0, \"+1\": 0, \"-1\": 0, \"laugh\": 0, \"hooray\": 0, \"confused\": 0, \"heart\": 0, \"rocket\": 0, \"eyes\": 0}", "issue": {"value": 1572766460, "label": "Transformation type `--type DATETIME`"}, "performed_via_github_app": null} {"html_url": "https://github.com/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524#issuecomment-1420966995", "issue_url": "https://api.github.com/repos/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524", "id": 1420966995, "node_id": "IC_kwDOCGYnMM5UsjxT", "user": {"value": 21095447, "label": "4l1fe"}, "created_at": "2023-02-07T15:29:28Z", "updated_at": "2023-02-07T15:29:28Z", "author_association": "NONE", "body": "I could, of course.\r\n\r\nDoest it worth bringing such the improvement to the library?", "reactions": "{\"total_count\": 0, \"+1\": 0, \"-1\": 0, \"laugh\": 0, \"hooray\": 0, \"confused\": 0, \"heart\": 0, \"rocket\": 0, \"eyes\": 0}", "issue": {"value": 1572766460, "label": "Transformation type `--type DATETIME`"}, "performed_via_github_app": null} {"html_url": "https://github.com/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524#issuecomment-1420992261", "issue_url": "https://api.github.com/repos/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524", "id": 1420992261, "node_id": "IC_kwDOCGYnMM5Usp8F", "user": {"value": 193185, "label": "cldellow"}, "created_at": "2023-02-07T15:45:58Z", "updated_at": "2023-02-07T15:45:58Z", "author_association": "NONE", "body": "I'd support that, but I'm not the author of this library.\r\n\r\nOne challenge is that would be a breaking change. Do you see a way to enable it without affecting existing users or bumping the major version number?", "reactions": "{\"total_count\": 0, \"+1\": 0, \"-1\": 0, \"laugh\": 0, \"hooray\": 0, \"confused\": 0, \"heart\": 0, \"rocket\": 0, \"eyes\": 0}", "issue": {"value": 1572766460, "label": "Transformation type `--type DATETIME`"}, "performed_via_github_app": null} {"html_url": "https://github.com/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524#issuecomment-1421022917", "issue_url": "https://api.github.com/repos/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524", "id": 1421022917, "node_id": "IC_kwDOCGYnMM5UsxbF", "user": {"value": 21095447, "label": "4l1fe"}, "created_at": "2023-02-07T16:06:03Z", "updated_at": "2023-02-07T16:08:58Z", "author_association": "NONE", "body": "> Do you see a way to enable it without affecting existing users or bumping the major version number?\r\n\r\nI don't see a clean solution, only extending code with a side variable that tells us we want to apply advanced types instead of basic.\r\n\r\nit could be a similiar command like `tranform-v2 --type column DATETIME` or a cli option `transform --adv-type column DATETIME` along with a dict that contains the advanced types. Then with knowledge that we run an advanced command we take that dictionary somehow, we can wrap the current and new dictionaries by a superdict and work with it everywhere according to the knowledge. This way shouldn't affect users who are using the previous lib versions and it have to be merged in the next major one.\r\n\r\nBut this way looks a bad design, too messy.", "reactions": "{\"total_count\": 0, \"+1\": 0, \"-1\": 0, \"laugh\": 0, \"hooray\": 0, \"confused\": 0, \"heart\": 0, \"rocket\": 0, \"eyes\": 0}", "issue": {"value": 1572766460, "label": "Transformation type `--type DATETIME`"}, "performed_via_github_app": null} {"html_url": "https://github.com/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524#issuecomment-1421033725", "issue_url": "https://api.github.com/repos/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524", "id": 1421033725, "node_id": "IC_kwDOCGYnMM5Us0D9", "user": {"value": 193185, "label": "cldellow"}, "created_at": "2023-02-07T16:12:13Z", "updated_at": "2023-02-07T16:12:13Z", "author_association": "NONE", "body": "I think the bigger issue is that `sqlite-utils` mixes mechanism (it implements the [12-step way to alter SQLite tables](https://www.sqlite.org/lang_altertable.html#otheralter)) and policy (it has an opinionated stance on what column types should be used).\r\n\r\nThat might be a design choice to make it accessible to users by providing a reasonable set of defaults, but it doesn't quite fit my use case.\r\n\r\nIt might make sense to extract a separate library that provides just the mechanisms, and then `sqlite-utils` would sit on top of that library with its opinionated set of policies.\r\n\r\nThat would be a very big change, though.\r\n\r\nI might take a stab at extracting the library, but just for the table schema migration piece, not all the other features that `sqlite-utils` supports. I wouldn't expect `sqlite-utils` to depend on it.\r\n\r\nPart of my motivation is that I want to provide some other abilities, too, like support for CHECK constraints. I see that the issue in this repo (https://github.com/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/358) proposes a bunch of short-hand constraints, which I wouldn't want to accidentally expose to people -- I want a layer that is a 1:1 mapping to SQLite.", "reactions": "{\"total_count\": 0, \"+1\": 0, \"-1\": 0, \"laugh\": 0, \"hooray\": 0, \"confused\": 0, \"heart\": 0, \"rocket\": 0, \"eyes\": 0}", "issue": {"value": 1572766460, "label": "Transformation type `--type DATETIME`"}, "performed_via_github_app": null} {"html_url": "https://github.com/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524#issuecomment-1421052195", "issue_url": "https://api.github.com/repos/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524", "id": 1421052195, "node_id": "IC_kwDOCGYnMM5Us4kj", "user": {"value": 21095447, "label": "4l1fe"}, "created_at": "2023-02-07T16:23:17Z", "updated_at": "2023-02-07T16:23:57Z", "author_association": "NONE", "body": "Isn't your suggestion too fundamental for the utility?\r\n\r\nThe bigger flexibility, the bigger complexity. Your idea make sense defenitely, but how often do you make schema changes? And how many people could benefit from it, what do you think?", "reactions": "{\"total_count\": 0, \"+1\": 0, \"-1\": 0, \"laugh\": 0, \"hooray\": 0, \"confused\": 0, \"heart\": 0, \"rocket\": 0, \"eyes\": 0}", "issue": {"value": 1572766460, "label": "Transformation type `--type DATETIME`"}, "performed_via_github_app": null} {"html_url": "https://github.com/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524#issuecomment-1421055590", "issue_url": "https://api.github.com/repos/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524", "id": 1421055590, "node_id": "IC_kwDOCGYnMM5Us5Zm", "user": {"value": 21095447, "label": "4l1fe"}, "created_at": "2023-02-07T16:25:31Z", "updated_at": "2023-02-07T16:25:31Z", "author_association": "NONE", "body": "> Ah, it looks like that is controlled by this dict: https://github.com/simonw/sqlite-utils/blob/main/sqlite_utils/db.py#L178\r\n> \r\n> I suspect you could overwrite the datetime entry to achieve what you want\r\n\r\nAnd thank you for pointing me to it. At least, i can make a monkey patch for my need...", "reactions": "{\"total_count\": 0, \"+1\": 0, \"-1\": 0, \"laugh\": 0, \"hooray\": 0, \"confused\": 0, \"heart\": 0, \"rocket\": 0, \"eyes\": 0}", "issue": {"value": 1572766460, "label": "Transformation type `--type DATETIME`"}, "performed_via_github_app": null} {"html_url": "https://github.com/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524#issuecomment-1421081939", "issue_url": "https://api.github.com/repos/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524", "id": 1421081939, "node_id": "IC_kwDOCGYnMM5Us_1T", "user": {"value": 193185, "label": "cldellow"}, "created_at": "2023-02-07T16:42:25Z", "updated_at": "2023-02-07T16:43:42Z", "author_association": "NONE", "body": "Ha, yes, I might end up making something very niche. That's OK.\r\n\r\nI'm building a UI for [Datasette](https://datasette.io/) that lets users make schema changes, so it's important to me that the tool work in a non-surprising way -- if you ask for a column of type X, you should get type X. If the column or table previously had CHECK constraints, they shouldn't be silently removed. And so on. I had hoped that I could just lean on sqlite-utils, but I think it's a little too surprising.", "reactions": "{\"total_count\": 0, \"+1\": 0, \"-1\": 0, \"laugh\": 0, \"hooray\": 0, \"confused\": 0, \"heart\": 0, \"rocket\": 0, \"eyes\": 0}", "issue": {"value": 1572766460, "label": "Transformation type `--type DATETIME`"}, "performed_via_github_app": null} {"html_url": "https://github.com/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524#issuecomment-1421177666", "issue_url": "https://api.github.com/repos/simonw/sqlite-utils/issues/524", "id": 1421177666, "node_id": "IC_kwDOCGYnMM5UtXNC", "user": {"value": 21095447, "label": "4l1fe"}, "created_at": "2023-02-07T17:39:00Z", "updated_at": "2023-02-07T17:39:00Z", "author_association": "NONE", "body": "> lets users make schema changes, so it's important to me that the tool work in a non-surprising way -- if you ask for a column of type X, you should get type X. If the column or table previously had CHECK constraints, they shouldn't be silently removed\r\n\r\nI've got your concern. Let's see if we will be replied on it and i'll close the issue some later.\r\n", "reactions": "{\"total_count\": 0, \"+1\": 0, \"-1\": 0, \"laugh\": 0, \"hooray\": 0, \"confused\": 0, \"heart\": 0, \"rocket\": 0, \"eyes\": 0}", "issue": {"value": 1572766460, "label": "Transformation type `--type DATETIME`"}, "performed_via_github_app": null}